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April 14, 2008
Klapisch On Hughes
Via Bob Klapisch of The Record:
Scouts still believe Hughes is on a long-range path to success; but he’s making obvious mistakes with a fastball that’s been curiously anemic. On Sunday night, the radar gun had Hughes in the 90-91 mph range, and sometimes it wasn’t even that quick.
"Obviously (Hughes) is not where we want him to be, but he’ll get better," Joe Girardi said. "I still believe in my guys."
It’s true, Hughes is being given a wide berth by everyone in the organization, up to and including Hank Steinbrenner. But make no mistake, the corporate plan also calls for a 13th consecutive trip to the postseason, and if the Yankees have any hope of winning the wild card, let alone catching the Red Sox, they’ll need more from Hughes.
Question is: Just how much can the Yankees really expect from the prospect who was hailed as a young John Smoltz?
In three starts, (11 innings), Hughes has allowed 11 earned runs on 16 hits, including eight walks. These aren’t just growing-pains numbers, these are signs of distress.
One scout who’s watched Hughes recently said, "He’s going to need a plus fastball to keep hitters honest. He’s got a great curveball, but they’re going to start sitting on it sooner or later."
"I wish I could pinpoint it," Hughes said of his struggle. "I pride myself on getting ahead in the count and then having pinpoint control of my fastball. But I have been out of my comfort zone lately."
You know, the super-hype on Phil Hughes goes back for at least two years now - probably even longer...going back to when he was drafted in 2004.
The more I think about it...it seems like it's just too much pressure to live up to those expectations. And, now, it's worse for Hughes, because of the whole Johan Santana trade-talk thing.
Andrew Brackman is next up...the hype is already building on him.
It just seems like it's going to much easier for guys like Zach McAllister and Alan Horne to break into the big leagues, in the New York market, than the Hughes and Brackman types who need to be lights-up from jump street.
It's too late to make things easier for guys like Hughes - with respect to the spot-light being on them. Hopefully, there's a lesson learned in here for the team. Don't support or allow the hype and give these kids a chance to ease into it. Do whatever you have to make it possible for them to sneak in a back-door rather than just throw them out on stage...billed as the next coming of the savior.
It's bad enough that it's all uphill trying to break into the bigs as a pitcher. Is there really a need to tie weights to the guy's shoulders at the same time?
Posted by Steve Lombardi at April 14, 2008 10:33 AM
Comments
Zack McCalister? He's in low A right now and has always been deemed as a work in progress I thought.
Posted by: gphunt
at April 14, 2008 12:14 PM
"Scouts still believe Hughes is on a long-range path to success; but he’s making obvious mistakes with a fastball that’s been curiously anemic"
I don't think any scout would make a statement that dumb and I challenge Klapish to prove it. The mistake isn't made with his fastball dummy, the mistake is made the way he throws his fastball. Weak reporting there.
Or maybe that was a Yankee scout.
Posted by: Greek
at April 14, 2008 12:45 PM
Anemic? His fastball was sitting at 93 and touching 94. You can't take these mediots serioiusly.
Posted by: Rich
at April 14, 2008 12:51 PM
No one spouts more nonsense than Klapisch. My reaction to this -- maybe because this site has fifteen thousand posts on it -- is "zzzzzz." An anemic fastball? Did he notice how he was throwing it by hitters in that first inning?
And while the ESPN gun is jacked, the same gun that had Phil 93-94 had Dice-K 91. So either Dice-K was throwing 87-88 or the gun was fairly accurate.
The New York media is jusssst about to turn on Hughes and start calling him a bust. This based on a handful of starts from a 21-year-old. I know they haven't had a legit pitching prospect for a while, but maybe they should try to step back and chill out. Reactions from people like Steve and the now the media is why I almost thought it would be better if Phil HAD been traded to the Twins. There he could have made his mistakes and matured without having sixteen tons of sh-t dumped on his head in the process.
Posted by: baileywalk
at April 14, 2008 01:05 PM
Hughes is still way too young to call him a bust. I was encouraged by the stuff he had last night. He just needs to get his command back and I think he will be alright.
We can't forget that there's only like one player younger than him in the majors right now. I think Justin Upton is the only one younger. If Hughes was to pitch the way Mussina has been lately 5-6 innings 3-4 runs then I think thats all we can ask. Anything more would just be icing on the cake.
Now is that going to be good enough to get to the playoffs? Basically having 3 Mussina's(Mussina, Hughes, Kennedy)? I'm not sure but all I can say is thank god for Wang.
Posted by: antone
at April 14, 2008 02:27 PM
That article is, for lack of a better term, a crock of shit. Yes, there are issues and concerns, but "an anemic fastball" is certainly not one of them. If freaking Joe Morgan could point out how much life Hughes's FB had especially compared to Dice-K's, than this "scout" should be able to notice that too.
Hughes's problem, as he basically states himself, is hi slack of control. The notion that he NEEDS another pitch (he actually has TWO other pitches) to succeed is ridiculous. There are lots of quite successful pitchers with two plus pitches, which he has when he has his control. YOu use the third pitch as a "show." I like how after three starts the jury is already out on Hughes. Freaking NY media and Yankee fans. How quick they forget Sept and Oct. of last year, and hell, even his first start!
Posted by: Zack
at April 14, 2008 04:14 PM
Gameday had Hughes sitting at 93. That is the most accurate reading there is right now.
Posted by: Rich
at April 14, 2008 04:37 PM
I still like Phil a lot as a prospect, though I appreciate Steve being willing to get out on the proverbial ledge and show us the downside. I'm glad that I saw his fastball hitting 93-94 last night. My only question is this: What happened to his control? I thought that was the best part of Phil from the minors; that he had a good K to BB ratio? What can we blame this on? Youth? Return from Injury? Nerves? Just a run of bad luck?
Certainly the calls I saw last night just sucked. Phil was around the plate more than the umpire would admit, that's for sure. I was frustrated with the lousy strike zone.
If Phil can regain steady control, I think he's going to be special (as long as he can also stay healthy).
Posted by: Jeb
at April 14, 2008 06:57 PM
Gameday? why don't you just turn on xbox. If the reading was valid scouts wouldn't carry radar guns. Do you actually think they like carrying that crap. Go play with your gameday and barbie.
