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February 24, 2008

Rounding Out The Yankees Pen

I keep reading that General Joe wants a long reliever and a lefty in two of his three bullpen spots after Mo, Joba, Farnsworth and Hawkins.

Pete Caldera has an interesting feature today on who's fighting for what spot. After reading it, I think this is how the Yankees bullpen will shape up this spring:

Mariano Rivera
Joba Chamberlain
Kyle Farnsworth
LaTroy Hawkins
Billy Traber
Scott Strickland
Jeff Karstens or Darrell Rasner

And, Bruney, Ohlendorf, Veras, Ramirez and Albaladejo will start the year at Triple-A. It's just a hunch, but, I think Joe's going to want to start the year with the experienced guys coming out of the pen.

Posted by Steve Lombardi at February 24, 2008 09:05 AM

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I hope Girardi would take the best pitchers, regardless of age, over guys with experience. Traber, Strickland and Karstens/Rasner has ugly potential. Going with veterans is a Torre move ;)

Sean Henn & Brian Bruney are out of options, so they'll need to pass through waivers to go to the minors. Bruney might make it through, Henn will definitely get picked because he's a lefty and kinda throws hard.

I think (hope) the Yanks are pulling for Ohlendorf to have a good ST and grab a spot. Hopefully Chris Britton won't spend the year wasting away in Triple-A again.

Posted by: Mike A. [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 24, 2008 11:00 AM

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/2...gain-tomorrow/

Girardi talked a little about the makeup of his bullpen, saying he wanted a long reliever and hopefully a lefty. But he said that while he would like a lefty specialist type, he won’t keep a southpaw unless they deserve to make it.

Posted by: Rich [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 24, 2008 02:01 PM

If that's the bullpen, someone please strangle me. The start of the season will be depressing.

I can't believe Girardi wants a lefty specialist. I think of Girardi as a forward-thinking, convention-breaking type of guy, and he wants to waste a precious bullpen spot with someone you keep around to get one out a game?

It'll be a real shame if Karstens and Strickland take spots away from young guys with potential. Considering the options they have in Ohlendrof, Veras, Bruney, Ramirez, Albaladejo, Melancon (and others), it's a shame they signed a known hack like Hawkins.

I suppose a longman is valuable if you believe your starting pitchers are going to need one (though it's somewhat painful to take up a roster spot with a guy who's not good enough to start or pitch effectively and you keep him around to mop up others' failures).

I hope the love affair with Karstens ends this spring training.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 24, 2008 02:56 PM

Traber has a career total of under 200 IPs, and a career ERA+ of 80, with a WHIP of over 1.5. He won't make the cut.

Scott Strickland has decent numbers but has only pitched 4 innings in the last 4 years. He will have to be VERY good in ST to make the team.

I would say two of Bruney, Ohlendorf, and Albaladejo .


Posted by: singledd [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 24, 2008 04:13 PM

After the disasters of last spring, I think it's probably a good idea to have a long man/spot starter. Just in case.

Have they officially put Joba in the pen? I keep hearing different things. I'm so confused!

Posted by: snowball003 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 24, 2008 04:17 PM

the lower half of that pen has proven ineptitude written all over it.

at least the young guys have a lot of potential. i'm talking about Edwar, Ohlie, Alby, Veras, Britton and Bruney.

Posted by: Travis G. [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 24, 2008 04:37 PM

I think of Girardi as a forward-thinking, convention-breaking type of guy

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Why? Has his actions in Florida shown this, is it wishful thinking, or something else?

Posted by: Basura [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 24, 2008 05:10 PM

Why? Has his actions in Florida shown this, is it wishful thinking, or something else?
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That's a good question. It's not really based on his time with the Marlins (which I didn't see fully). I guess it's based mostly on hearing him talk, being impressed with his intelligence, and gauging a logical/common-sense approach to things from him. So maybe it IS wishful thing -- or at the least an assumption.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 24, 2008 07:51 PM

I suppose a longman is valuable if you believe your starting pitchers are going to need one (though it's somewhat painful to take up a roster spot with a guy who's not good enough to start or pitch effectively and you keep him around to mop up others' failures).
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Makes sense with the innings caps.

Posted by: Raf [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 24, 2008 09:29 PM

My guess is that they start out withsomething along the lines of

Mo/Joba/Farns/Hawkins/Henn/Bruney/Rasner

Mostly out of options concerns . though anyone that gets hammered is probably on a short leash on the DFA list.

Posted by: Yu Hsing Chen [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 24, 2008 10:01 PM

I think the Yanks bullpen could actually be a strength this year.

Posted by: MoLewisSocks [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 25, 2008 02:26 PM