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February 28, 2008
Roger, Over And Out?
The news, or should I say quicksand, just keeps getting worse and worse for Roger Clemens. But, perhaps the biggest question here is: Does anyone even care anymore?
If someone told you that you could never hear any news about Clemens, ever again, and it would only cost you a dollar, would you be as quick as me to pony-up a buck?
Posted by WW Staff at February 28, 2008 10:13 AM
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I'd pay more than a dollar. I'm completely sick of this story -- not just Clemens, but the steroids issues itself. Enough about Bonds and Clemens and who did what and when and for how long. Let's just move on. I don't want to see either of those guys end up in jail -- that would be incredibly pointless.
It's become pretty obvious to me that the only people who care about this story are the reporters -- fans want to move on, but the media wants its stories and they love this thing because it's the exact type of gossip, tabloid crap they thrive on.
More than likely, Clemens did HGH and/or steroids, but is it really in the government's best interests to investigate that? Is it really that important?
Bud Selig's desperate attempt to restore his name, and try to erase the "Steroid Commissioner" label, by letting Mitchell (who apparently did a dance when he got the info on Clemens) release names the way he did has totally blown up in his face. Steroid use happened, but that doesn't mean we have to revisit it. All we should concern ourselves with is the new testing policy. Selig put himself before the game and damaged it severely.
Posted by: baileywalk
at February 28, 2008 11:16 AM
This is the best quote--
"The divide over the memorandum was reminiscent of the Feb. 13 hearing, when Clemens and McNamee contradicted each other. The Democrats sided with McNamee, and the Republicans backed Clemens."
Are the Republicans going to request McNamee be investigated for lying next? What the hell, I think they should. This is much more important then $9 trillion in debt where whether we raise or lower tax won't pay down the yearly interest alone regardless.
Posted by: gphunt
at February 28, 2008 11:18 AM
If Woody would have went to the police this would have never happened...
If Roger would have just came clean I can confidently say that he would not be in this situation he faces right now. The amount of evidence is simply over whelming against him. But none of these atheletes get it. Its not the crime. Its the cover up that ticks congress and the public off. Im sorry but Roger needs to be made an example of.
If I never heard another thing about Roger Clemens sure I could get on just fine with life. But in all honestly, I cant help but wonder how much deeper of a hole Roger Clemens is going to dig himself in this week. This whole scenerio is sad and interesting to me at the same time. I think the way this whole scenerio played out may be a deterrent and lesson in coming clean for future athletes who get caught cheating. Its true if they are caught they may not be completely recognized for the milestones they reached in their careers but they do leave with some sort of dignity. Just look at Giambi & Andy. Atheletes like Barry and Roger just strike a raw nerve with the general public. They prefer to pee on our leg and tell us its raining. Is he innocent until proven guilty? Yes. Do I have an opinion? Yes, a strong one.
Posted by: GHirsch516
at February 28, 2008 11:57 AM
If Roger would have just came clean I can confidently say that he would not be in this situation he faces right now. The amount of evidence is simply over whelming against him. But none of these atheletes get it. Its not the crime. Its the cover up that ticks congress and the public off. Im sorry but Roger needs to be made an example of.
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"Needs to be made an example of" is probably my least favorite saying.
The evidence isn't overwhelming against Clemens -- not from the law's point of view. You have a single witness who saw him use, and you have someone else who says he told him he used. That's it. That is not overwhelming evidence. Pettitte and Knobby might have backed up what McNamee said, but that doesn't mean -- at least as far as proving it in court -- that he's telling the truth about Clemens. Yeah, McNamee probably IS telling the truth, but you can't actually prove it because there's really nothing to prove Clemens did steroids besides his testimony. (The MRI of Clemens' ass with the abscess, etc., is worthless information in my opinion because you cannot tell me that someone -- even an "expert" -- can tell you if that abscess came from Wintrol or something else.)
It's hard to fault someone trying to save their reputation. Someone not wanting to reveal damaging information about himself.
Clemens, unlike Bonds, was not in a witness stand in a trial given immunity. His testimony did not affect a federal case. That's the big difference between him and Bonds, and frankly I don't want Bonds or Clemens to go to jail, and I think it's an absolute shame that they're putting Marion Jones in one too.
Clemens did what a lot of people in his shoes would have, and whether he did or not did do steroids hardly matters in the grand scheme of things. The hearings on this issue were as big a joke as his testimony.
Posted by: baileywalk
at February 28, 2008 12:19 PM
I think intelligent baseball fans don't give a crap, but that the general American public is hungry for more. It's just your standard fall-from-grace story that makes most people drool.
I think it's obvious that Roger Clemens used some PED's. I also think it's obvious that he worked out as hard as anyone in the league during the later stages of his career. Quite frankly, I feel the same way about Barry Bonds, but for some reason people hate him more.
Posted by: Jordan Meisner
at February 28, 2008 01:01 PM
Clemens brought this on himself, so I wouldn't pay anything, but here's what I would do:
I would offer Clemens transactional immunity and waive the five year rule in order to put him in the HoF immediately if he would admit his PED use.
Posted by: Rich
at February 28, 2008 01:15 PM
Clemens is the one who insisted on the hearing. Neither Waxman nor Davis wanted it. Assuming McNamee told the truth, which I do, Clemens perjured himself.
