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December 07, 2007
Hank: Door Not Closed On Santana
From Newsday -
In a phone conversation last night, though, senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner did not rule out revisiting trade talks on Santana, saying, "You never close the door completely."
Steinbrenner placed a Monday deadline on Santana trade talks, which he extended until midday Tuesday. But he said last night, "The reason for my deadline is I didn't want to get caught up in the bidding circus at the winter meetings."
Man, I can see opening the door for Sister Suzie, Brother John, Martin Luther, Phil, Don, Uncle Ernie, and Auntie Gin, but, at this point, maybe it makes more sense to just walk-away from Johan...for good.
Unless, of course, the Twins are ready to swap him, one-up, for, say, Alan Horne. However, what are the odds of that happening?
Posted by Steve Lombardi at December 7, 2007 09:44 AM
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Another deadline passes and another door opens. At this point, I want to sit at a poker table with Hank. I'll bully his ass in 10 hands, I guarantee it. This guy's a loudmouth and a mental midget.
Posted by: MJ
at December 7, 2007 10:00 AM
While Hank is not the most eloquent person here, this obviously makes sense. Let Lupica write about how Hank did this even though he said that all day. My dog chases his tail as well.
I believe the point Hank made with his deadline was valid: the Yankees weren't going to ante up, let the Red Sox ante up, and then get into a bidding war. They made an offer, it was rejected, and that was it. That, to me, is the essence of what Hank was saying with the deadline.
So, logically, if the Twins called tomorrow and said "We'll give you Santana for Melky, Horne, and Kennedy" you have to judge it on it's merits. If they call back and say "Wait, the Red Sox just got involved, so now we want Hughes, too!" then the concept of the deadline still applies, and you tell them to fuck off.
Am I way off base here? Let the real mental midgets (read: the New York media) have their fun holding Hank to his every word literally. Meanwhile, Hank and Cashman have made the right decisions, and that's all I care about.
Posted by: j
at December 7, 2007 10:42 AM
J, my point is merely that Hank never shuts up. He talks and talks and talks every single day. I'm not saying he and Cash have done wrong this winter by not selling the farm, I'm simply saying that the best way to run a business is to speak softly and carry a big stick. Talking too much cheapens the value of your words and makes you a ridiculous person.
That's just my two cents.
Posted by: MJ
at December 7, 2007 11:15 AM
Oh, I'm with you. Hank is a windbag. But has it affected anything but what idiot column writers and radio talk show hosts talk about?
For all his blustering, he still signed ARod, Mo, Po, got Pettite back on a 1 year deal, and didn't trade Hughes and Kennedy for Santana.
I understand your point, but in retort, I suppose my point is that I'll judge the man by his actions and not his words.
Posted by: j
at December 7, 2007 11:22 AM
FWIW, I think we have to see Hank when the Yankees are not playing well. That could be the cue to see if we're going to hate him or love him.
Posted by: Steve Lombardi
at December 7, 2007 11:49 AM
FWIW, I think we have to see Hank when the Yankees are not playing well. That could be the cue to see if we're going to hate him or love him.
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I'll hate him until I'm given a reason to do otherwise. I hated his dad (still do, in fact). I find their behavior and public persona grating at best and offensive at worst.
Posted by: MJ
at December 7, 2007 11:54 AM
> I'll hate him until I'm given a reason to do otherwise.
You see, I think this is what I was trying to uncover. George Steinbrenner, and now Hank Steinbrenner, are obnoxious, pompous, arrogant, loudmouths. There is no debating that.
But tell me, would you rather have an owner who isn't really concerned with fielding a competitive team? How about the rich owner of the Twins, who would rather line his pockets with the fans money (and our money, via revenue sharing and luxury tax) then resign his homegrown popular players (especially considering the Twins are a few players away from a contending team)?
I think you have to look past the headlines of what Hank or George said on this day or that, and realize this is an owner who is committed to spending money to get players to play in Yankee stadium. As a result, we get to talk about a competitive team each and every year. I certainly wouldn't ask Hank to give a toast at my wedding, but he's what I want in an owner for my favorite baseball team.
Posted by: j
at December 7, 2007 12:00 PM
But tell me, would you rather have an owner who isn't really concerned with fielding a competitive team?
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You don't need to be an "obnoxious, pompous, arrogant, loudmouth" to field a competetive team.
Posted by: Raf
at December 7, 2007 12:04 PM
You don't need to be an "obnoxious, pompous, arrogant, loudmouth" to field a competetive team.
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Bingo.
Posted by: MJ
at December 7, 2007 12:17 PM
But tell me, would you rather have an owner who isn't really concerned with fielding a competitive team? How about the rich owner of the Twins, who would rather line his pockets with the fans money (and our money, via revenue sharing and luxury tax) then resign his homegrown popular players (especially considering the Twins are a few players away from a contending team)?Quote
It's a mixed blessing 'coz Hank is great for the media and he wants to field the best team BUT the caveat is that he can't shut his mouth!He lays too many of his cards on the table,he makes George seem sedate.BTW ,Steve I like that reference to Wing's "Let 'Em In"....we're both dating ourselves!
