November 29, 2007
RSN Now Favs For Johan Santana?
From the Pioneer Press
A little birdie says the Boston Red Sox have become the favorite in the Johan Santana trade sweepstakes.
The Twins would receive four players for the Twins' two-time Cy Young Award winner, including center fielder Coco Crisp, 28.
Others would be shortstop prospect Jed Lowry, 23; left-handed pitcher Jon Lester, 23; and right-handed pitcher Justin Masterson, 22.
Before a deal could be made, the Red Sox would have to have time to negotiate a contract extension with Santana, 28, who can become a free agent after next season and could have a market value as high as $150 million over six years.
Lowry did not play in the major leagues this year but is considered ready and is a good-fielding shortstop who also can hit. Lowry had a slugging percentage of .500 at Class AA and Class AAA this year.
Lester made a comeback from non-Hodgkin's lymphoma a year ago and is said to be cancer-free.
Masterson, 6 feet 6, 245 pounds, had 59 strikeouts in 58 innings at Class AA Portland.
The New York Yankees don't have the prospects available who the Twins figure have a reasonable chance to play in the major leagues by the end of 2008.
Not sure on the writer's source here, but, maybe he does know something?
Beckett, Johan, Red Light and Dice-K. That would make the Sox a favorite to repeat in the A.L. East (next year).
Posted by Steve Lombardi at November 29, 2007 09:00 AM
It's unfortunate, but that rumor seems entirely plausible. The Twins fill two holes, CF and SS, and they get two young pitchers. The Yankees just can't beat that offer (nor would I want them to beat it).
Aren't the Twins filling their hole at SS with the Young/Garza trade? Or is Harris going to be used as a Util guy?
Lowrie doesn't 'fill a hole'. He's a prospect in AAA with no major league experience. If those kinds of prospects counted as filling holes, then Pridie from the Rays would fill their hole in center.
No, this article is part filler, part Red Sox fan fantasy. The Twins don't want any part of CoCo Crisp, and so are demanding Ellsbury in any trade. Lester is also worse than about 6 of their pitchers who would pitch next season, why would they want him? Masterson only pitched 50-some innings in AA, and would be way, way down on the Twins' depth chart.
The last sentence in the article also makes no sense whatsoever. I really wouldn't pay it any mind, it sounds like the standard "my boss wants an article in the paper so I made up an unnamed source and picked some names" fare.
I can understand a Yankee fan who doesn't want his team to beat such an offer, but it can't be good for the Yanks is the Sox get Santana while keeping Ellsbury and Buchholz.
The bottom line though is that in my opinion, if the Red Sox can't land Santana, they get to keep their prospects. If the Yankees get him, at the cost of Damon being forced to play CF, and losing Hughes plus Tabata, its a pretty good deal for the Sox, too.
Simple fact is the Yankee roster is among the oldest and letting Melky or Robbie go only makes them worse. If I were a Yankee fan, I'd have nightmares about the future, with a roster full of aged, long past their prime vets. Mo a closer at 41? Posada catching at 40? Damon? Assuming they re-sign Matsui when his contract is up-there's another past-35 player. Not to mention the Captain and the 300 million dollar man (I'm sure you all agree they'll be declining sooner or later).
From what I've read, the Twins see Harris as a utility guy.
Lowrie is a much better prospect than Pridie. He's coming into his age 24 season and had a breakthrough season split across AA and AAA. No prospect is a sure thing, but Lowrie looks ready for his shot.
Crisp is a great defender. I'd need to see what scouts say about his two-year offensive slump. Perhaps, the Twins could see him as a guy who could bounce back in a lower pressure environment. At this point in his career, that's not an unrealistic assumption.
I think this is Twins spin designed to get the Yankees to raise their offer.
Hard to trust anyone who uses "a little birdie" instead of "unnamed source."
Don't know much about these players (outside of Lester and Crisp, of course). I don't understand why the Twins would want either of those players. Lester, maybe, but Crisp? Anyway, I agree: the Yankees can match the offer. And the longer this drags on, the more I think: well, who cares? If they get him, they get him. If they don't, they don't. I think the Yankees' pitching will be improved (if Andy comes back) no matter what.
Ridiculous. Masterson and Lowrie are good prospects, but nothing special. Especially Masterson. They cite 59 Ks in 58 IP. Yippee. Two years running his ERA in the minors is over 4.50 and his strikeout numbers, while good in general are not likely to be that good in the bigs.
Crisp ? Really ? If the Twins were going to take Crisp off the Sox hands, and nobody on earth could describe it any other way with a straight face, would require the Sox to INCREASE their offer. Melky's numbers, while not terrific, are ALREADY better than Crisp's, Crisp is making $5 mil a year, AND he's 6 years older. That is the very definition of NO-BRAINER.
Lester is probably at the absolute height of his value considering his story, his WS success, and his career 11-2 record. BUT his peripherals are nothing special.
The Yankees could make a better offer than that WITHOUT including Tabata, Hughes, Chamberlain, Cano, or Ajax with no problem.
Look the Jays have an excellent 1-5,the Sox do too and the Yanks are only on the verge of having one.The Santana deal for the Sox might be a mixed blessing since Santana is not that good at Fenway and he has not been dominant in the playoffs and is not a Yankee killer.If you told me that Doc Halladay was being traded to the Sox THEN ,I would say rats,but Santana is not well matched sabremetrically to the Sox.The Redsox should be careful what they wish for,because they really don't need him.The Yanks should be careful,since Santana faltered this year too.Sounds like Pavano or Johnson all over again!