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November 05, 2007

Miguel Cabrera

Many think that the Marlins would be willing to now trade Miguel Cabrera.

Let's run down the facts on him.

Is he young? Yes, very young.
Can he hit? Yes, over the last three seasons, only Alex Rodriguez and Albert Pujols have done more damage than him from the right-side of the plate.

Can he play third base? No, not by a long shot. He's a butcher in the field.
How is his conditioning? Well, let's put it this way, he makes David Wells look like Gabe Kapler.
What about his attitude towards the game? Sadly, he's a mini-Manny in the making.

Therefore, it's an interesting question here - if you have a chance to pick him up in a trade - are you willing to take the baggage with the bat?

Personally, I would pass - if I were the Yankees. Baggage (like his) and the New York media are a bad mix. I'd rather keep the pitching prospects - that it would probably cost to acquire Cabrera - and find a smaller bat, with a good glove, to play third in the Bronx, post-A-Rod.

Then again, Joe Girardi managed him in 2006. So, maybe General Joe has a different opinion on picking up Miguel? How about you? What would you do?

Posted by Steve Lombardi at November 5, 2007 09:05 AM

Comments

Knowing full well that every GM in baseball refuses to trade with the Yankees without demanding that the Yanks fork over Hughes, Chamberlain, the keys to Fort Knox, and a lifetime supply of kosher deli trays, I can't imagine that the Marlins would part with Cabrera without depleting the Yankees of their pitching depth. And since I have a hard time imagining the Yankees as a .500 team with Wang, Mussina, Igaway, Karstens and Kennedy as their rotation next year, I'd much rather keep the young arms in the Bronx and let Florida deal with how to motivate their resident fatso.

Posted by: MJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 09:23 AM

You're talking about a player whose number one comp is Hank Aaron. I think he can be convinced to take up condition. It's amazing what a few million dollars can do to a player's motivation. If the price is right, I take him in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Ben K. [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 10:38 AM

Ditto Ben. Being overweight doesn't mean you stop hitting, per se. And so you move him to 1B and he's STILL a top 2 1B.

And if there is anyone that can convince him to get his butt in shape, its Joltin Joe Girardi-o....

Posted by: Zack [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 10:43 AM

It's amazing what a few million dollars can do to a player's motivation. If the price is right, I take him in a heartbeat.
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He's already making a few million dollars and seems quite unmotivated. I'd imagine that more money would probably make him even more complacent and slovenly.

As far as the price being right...yeah, sure, if the Yanks can get him for cheap, I'd take him too. But if the Marlins got Hanley/Anibal for a then slightly-overrated Beckett after 2005 then imagine what the Marlins would demand of the Yankees after another good season. Plus, unlike the Red Sox, the Yanks don't get the benefit of the related-party ownership transaction. Don't hold your breath that the Yanks can get Cabrera for less than two of our top pitchers plus god knows what else.

Posted by: MJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 10:44 AM

And so you move him to 1B and he's STILL a top 2 1B.
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I would hope the Yanks have had enough of committing to players whose inadequacies (sp?) force them to move positions shortly into their tenure. Giambi and, to a lesser extent, Damon really complicate matters now that they can't play the positions they were intended to play. Cabrera looks like he'll be DH'ing before his 30th birthday. That's pathetic.

Posted by: MJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 10:48 AM

~~~You're talking about a player whose number one comp is Hank Aaron.~~~

Didn't people once say that about a young Juan Gonzalez too?

Posted by: Steve Lombardi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 11:25 AM

Didn't people once say that about a young Juan Gonzalez too?
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At least we more or less know now that Juan-Gone was chemically enhanced. Cabrera's never been to a gym, let alone taken a supplement like that. If it's not deep-fried, Cabrera's not interested in it.

Posted by: MJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 12:22 PM

Cabrera keeps getting linked to the Yanks, but it seems next to impossible that the deal would get done. The Marlins want Hughes, which isn't happening. Also, like it's been pointed out, Cabrera is a horrible third baseman. The Yankees would almost certainly make him a first baseman (or move him back to leftfield or make him a DH, which is probably what he wants). I just don't see a fit.

If I had to guess, Hughes, Joba and Cano are untouchable assets. Everyone else -- Melky, Kennedy, etc., etc. -- are up for grabs. They probably also want to hang onto Jackson and Tabata.

I wonder if a Kennedy-Melky-(Karstens/Rasner/DeSalvo/White C-level pitching prospect) package would get anything decent in return.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 12:58 PM

You really think Cashman would trade Kennedy? I don't see that happening now.

Posted by: Steve Lombardi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 01:13 PM

MJ: I take it you're Miguel Cabrera's or the Marlins' personal trainer? Otherwise, tell me - with sources - how you know so much about Miguel Cabrera's weight and eating habits?

You're talking about a guy who has some of the best early career numbers of all time, and your comments are coming across as rather absurd.

Posted by: Ben K. [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 01:35 PM

~~~how you know so much about Miguel Cabrera's weight and eating habits? ~~~

After my family, and baseball, weight management is one of my favorite passions, so, I can chime in on this one.

When it comes to fitness, exercise is queen - but diet is the king. You don't get fat, outside of having a medical condition, unless you eat more than a person is supposed to eat. If Miguel Cabrera is up to 260, and looking at him suggests that he's at least 240, it's because he's eating too many calories. So, it's very safe to say that he has poor eating habits.

Posted by: Steve Lombardi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 02:14 PM

MJ: I take it you're Miguel Cabrera's or the Marlins' personal trainer? Otherwise, tell me - with sources - how you know so much about Miguel Cabrera's weight and eating habits?

You're talking about a guy who has some of the best early career numbers of all time, and your comments are coming across as rather absurd.
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Semantics. If you can't tell by looking at him then you're looking someplace else. Everyone is a different shape and all of that...but you can tell which professional athletes make fitness a priority and which don't. It's not like I'm coming up with stuff that hasn't been said before, right? Did you ask Ozzie Guillen - raving lunatic that he is - if he's Miggy's dietician or personal trainer?

As for his stats and the absurdity of my comments...I don't see how they're related. Did you see me say that he's NOT a great hitter? Did I write that he's a hack? Nope. All I wrote is that he's a meatball. It's my personal opinion that, at the rate he's going, he won't be a third baseman much longer AND that the bad habits in his 20's will catch up to him sooner or later. Am I really going so far out on a limb here that you'd think I'd need to be his trainer to make such claims?

Posted by: MJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 02:27 PM

The guy barely bends to field groundballs at third base, so I guess that would make him a fine first baseman............. Not.

Picture Manny playing infield. You cannot hide that as you can in LF. He's a DH at a young age. He is on the market for certain though.

Posted by: Don [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 02:47 PM

You really think Cashman would trade Kennedy? I don't see that happening now.
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I think he would to get a player of Cabrera's quality.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 02:50 PM

I believe I read an article that said Joe G. and Cabrera did not get along one bit in Florida. He didnt like the fact that Girardi would ride him all the time.

Posted by: Rich M [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 5, 2007 03:20 PM