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July 29, 2007

Let's Bounce Bruney Too

From the Post -

If the Yankees make a trade before Tuesday afternoon's deadline it's highly likely that Kyle Farnsworth and or Scott Proctor will be in it. And even if they aren't moved, neophyte Joba Chamberlain is a solid bet to be added to the bullpen mix as early as Tuesday.

If Joba Chamberlain is going to be the replacement for Farnsworth or Proctor, I wouldn't stop there. I would replace Brian Bruney with Jeff Karstens as well.

Since May 30th, Bruney has pitched in 22 games throwing 16.3 IP. In those 16+ innings, he's allowed 36 (!) baserunners. Batters against him in those 22 games have the following BA/OBA/SLG marks: .328/.450/.492 - yes, an Opponent On-Base Average of almost 50%.

Last night's game should have been the final straw for him. Even in the YES post-game, Torre said (about Brian): Sure, he throws hard, but, he has to throw strikes.

Bruney was good in April and May of this season. But, for the last two months, he's been brutal. It's time to get him down to Triple-A to work out his problems there.

Posted by Steve Lombardi at July 29, 2007 07:38 AM

Comments

What the heck happened to Brian Bruney though? In the beginning of the season, he was good. I'd get excited to see him come into a game. Did something happen? Or did the good just wear off?

Posted by: snowball003 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 09:35 AM

Last year, the question, always, on Bruney was "How could Arizona have let this guy go?" This year, I think we're seeing the answer. He's just another guy who throws hard but lacks the control to be an effective pitcher. The minors are full of guys like this.

Posted by: Steve Lombardi [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 09:53 AM

I remember when we first got Bruney. Many of the so-called experts criticized Arizona for "letting an arm like that get away." Well, as Steve has pointed out, this is why you let a guy with a golden arm go--he doesn't throw strikes.

By way of comparison, I saw Al Reyes of Tampa last night hold the meat of the Red Sox lineup at bay for two innings without throwing a ball over 86 mph. Quality pitching is a little like Real Estate: Change speeds and location, location, location!

Posted by: Joel [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 09:59 AM

Steve, you beat me to it. After I finished my comment I noticed you had already said pretty much the same thing. I wasn't intentionally trying to be repetitive:)

Posted by: Joel [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 10:02 AM

On today's MLB Trade Rumors.."The Orioles have inquired about Kei Igawa and were told he is unavailable" ! You have got to be kidding me.
Does Cashman have a death wish? If true, this is even worse than not trading Farnsworth to interested teams because of the money.

Posted by: Santino53 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 10:51 AM

Cashman being Cashman?

Posted by: Steve Lombardi [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 11:02 AM

My only issue with Chamberlain in the pen is will Torre use him? If Torre is going to treat him like Edwar then that wont help his development. If we want to fix our bullpen just replace Villone, Proctor, Farnsworth with Britton, Edwar, Joba

Posted by: Kyle [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 11:40 AM

Kyle, you should be more worried Torre will use him like Proctor. I worry about a 21 yr. old arm in the hands of a desparate manager with a track record of frying those he "trusts".

Posted by: Santino53 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 12:13 PM

I think the Joba rumors -- which writers are now mentioning like it's a certainty -- is bullshit. Would they really bring Joba up and stick him in the bullpen without ANY time in the 'pen in AAA? When someone starts their entire life, it's an odd transition to the 'pen -- the warmup time, etc. Plus, Joba has probably never pitched two days in a row as a pro. Wouldn't they want him to do it once to see how he feels before throwing him out there? I think putting Joba in the 'pen is a dumb idea, but if they do it, I hope they at least let him get his feet wet as a reliever in the minors.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 01:41 PM

Cashman turning down a trade proposal for Igawa is like me turning down a date proposal from Shakira.

It simply borders on the insane.

Posted by: brockdc [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 01:54 PM

Cashman turning down a trade proposal for Igawa is like me turning down a date proposal from Shakira.

It simply borders on the insane.
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Heyman mentions that in his column today. He says the M's "cooled" after Igawa's performance against the Royals (though you have to wonder why his previous starts turned them on; the Royals start was one of his better ones).

Heyman also said that the Yankees would expect any team who took Igawa to pay part of the posting fee, which is something I've never heard before.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 02:15 PM

If Joba gets called up and stuck in the pen, he wouldn't be the first, nor will he be the last.

Posted by: Raf [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 02:48 PM

If Joba gets called up and stuck in the pen, he wouldn't be the first, nor will he be the last.
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The last three great pitchers I can think of who did it were Santana, Liriano and Billingsley. I think most people felt they were wasted in the bullpen. That they should have been in the rotation. There's no space for Chamberlain at the moment, so I guess that's a moot point.

Joba hasn't pitched many innings. I just wonder about the wisdom of punishing his arm right now.

Kay just said that Chamberlain has been moved to the SWB 'pen. So I guess it's a done deal. I hope it works out, but I think it's a mistake. He should remain a starter with an ETA of 2008.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 29, 2007 04:11 PM

i just dont trust Torre to use joba effectively (at least for his future/health). it's going to be either 1. overuse, ala Proctor, or 2. underuse, ala Edwar. neither are good for his development.

Posted by: Travis G. [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 30, 2007 01:33 AM