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June 27, 2007

June 26th @ The Orioles

Scott Proctor, from June 21st to June 23rd, threw 86 pitches (combined) in the three games where he appeared. That's like a full game for a starter. So, what does Torre do in this game? He brings in Proctor - to pitch the 9th of a tie game - on "two days rest." Would you have a starter come back on two-days rest after throwing 86 pitches? No. Scott Proctor should have never appeared in this game - or any game - until he had at least three or four days rest.

And, worse, during the ninth, you could see that Proctor gassed. He was red in the face, sweating, etc. Once he allowed the first two batters to reach, he should have been lifted.

Blame this one on Joe Torre - for having Proctor in this game.

And, give some blame to Abreu as well - for playing that Millar fly ball into a hit. Good heavens, he is a terrible outfielder.

So, the Yankees are now 4-13 in one-run games. So many point to that as "bad luck" and use that as a spring board to say New York is due to turn this around as they are overdue to have better luck.

Was this game bad luck? Was the one-run loss against the Giants where Bruney blew it in the 7th bad luck? Was the recent one-run loss against the Rockies where Jeter ran the Yankees out of an inning bad luck? Was the one-run loss in Toronto where Aaron Hill stole home bad luck?

The "bad luck" in these types of losses is really the Cashman/Torre effect. Cashman built a starting rotation with issues (Mussina, Pavano, Igawa) that led to a bullpen being cooked by this point in the season. This is why the Bruneys, Proctors, etc., are losing games. And, it's Torre who has not rallied the team to be focused - which leads to things like Abreu misplays in the outfield, baserunners killing innings, allowing opponents to run wild on the bases, etc.

If you want to know why the Yankees record is so poor this season, look to Cashman and Torre. The "luck" stops there.

Posted by Steve Lombardi at June 27, 2007 07:46 AM

Comments

Was Rivera hurt?

Posted by: Raf [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 08:56 AM

Mo was fine, as far as I know.

Posted by: Steve Lombardi [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 09:06 AM

Even if Torre hadn't used Proctor like a cheap whore over the weekend, was there anyone who wasn't fully expecting Proctor to walk in the winning run or give up a hit in that situation?

I try to keep my emotions away from the doom and gloom end of the spectrum, but the Yanks may as well have walked off the field after giving the .224-hitting Patterson a free pass to lead off the inning.

Posted by: holden021 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 09:56 AM

was there anyone who wasn't fully expecting Proctor to walk in the winning run or give up a hit in that situation?
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After that diving catch, I thought there was a chance Proctor would escape the inning.

Posted by: Raf [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 10:29 AM

Since you're naming names, Steve, don't forget everyone's second favorite "little buddy" (after David Eckstein) Miguel Cairo.

He came up twice with the chance to drive in the lead run -- once with a man on third and one out -- and he failed to do it. This is why I laugh when people say you can "hide" a crappy nine-hole hitter. Okay, I know I'm repeating myself, but Shelly Duncan is mashing in AAA. Now, you can say, "Andy Phillips killed AAA pitching and he can't hit to save his life." This is true. And Shelly probably won't be that good. But what if he's more Shane Spencer than he is Andy Phillips? Since they refuse to play Chris Basak (the point of him being on the team is...?), bring up Shelly for a tryout and see what he does.

After seeing Pettitte's reaction last night, does anyone think he'll leave his player's option on the table and look elsewhere? He's having a brilliant year and it's been wasted.

The Proctor thing is why I get so angry with Torre-defenders. THIS is why we can't stand the guy. He ran Proctor into the ground in San Fran, and then not only uses him again, but lets him stay out there to throw 27 pitches. The only out he got was on that bunt.

Torre did this same thing to Proctor in Fenway -- he left him out there to die.

Being Torre's favorite is worse than being in his doghouse. When you're in the doghouse, you don't work, but when you're his favorite, he kills you with love.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 11:58 AM

I agree with Steve 100%. Torre really messed up last night's game in the 9th. After Proctor made that diving catch there was no way I'd leave Proctor in the game. He lost his head and couldn't complete the double play, if he got the wind knocked out of him then take him out - use the injury as the excuse. Proctor definitely didn't have it and there was no reason to leave him in there.

What a terrible, terrible game.

Posted by: Garcia [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 12:01 PM

"And, give some blame to Abreu as well - for playing that Millar fly ball into a hit. Good heavens, he is a terrible outfielder."

I reviewed the play on MLB, it shows Melky and Abreu converging on a ball with Abreu choosing to back up Cabrera. If Melky had less range, Abreu could have gone for a diving catch; but Melky came close enough so that Abreu would have risked a collision. He's not a "terrible" outfielder. His arm is better than Matsui's with a comparable range to Hideki. You're really expecting another Melky in right field and that is not who Abreu is. Like many Yankee fans who cut their teeth in the 90's, Stevie, your expectations are out of control. You need to practice the art of deep breaths. Particularly for this team.

The Pavano signing was a disaster but no one knew and the Igawa signing was the best of last year's pick without giving up anyone. Igawa actually came kind of cheap.

Bad luck is Rasner and Karstens and Hughes. Or is that your evil Cashman-Torre influence at work again? You can't expect a rotation to take those kind of hits and rely on second tier young arms to win. But Cashman had plenty of fallback before the "bad luck," which you refuse to recognize. The fallback was where the bad luck occurred. And can you blame Cash for at least not hoping that Pavano would at least earn ONE year of his contract? For 40 mill he was committed to putting him out there.

Now if you want to talk about no backup plans, check out our Boston cousins. Can you imagine their rotation taking the kind of hits the Yankees have taken this year?

And I've never seen or heard of Joe Torre making a GM move. He plays the guys he gets and sometimes overplays a few because he needs to win and not all the guys he gets are going to contribute to winning. You fault him for trying to get more out of Proctor? Proctor throws 40 pitches every couple of days or goes back-to-back when he has less of a pitch count. He's a horse. Looking at his game log, he has a bad game every month, sometimes two.

Moose is a perfectly acceptable 4-5 rotation starter and has shown himself capable of 5-6 good innings. His last four starts in June have been quality starts and has gone over 90 pitches in all of them. He will win his 300th game as a Yankee, although I'm sure fans like you, Stevie, would throw him under the bus for a less than stellar 2007 season so far, most of which hasn't been his fault. Man, I can already hear you moaning when Jeter is 40 and starting to close in on Pete Rose.

You know you're really not a zealot, Steve. I'm a zealot. With an 11 for a magic number and 10 games to play, I still like their chances. But that's only cause the SAWKS are in first.

Posted by: dereksTeam [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 01:01 PM

Further indictment of Torre's manegerial style is that he simply REFUSES to use the best reliever on his roster in the ninth inning of a tie game on the road (as Steve Goldman has put it, "Saving him for a save opportunity that may never present itself"). This phenonmenon is otherwise known as The Weaver Effect. But over the past couple of years, his bullpen management has gone from puzzling to Kafka-esque.

And, Steve, I agree with you TO AN EXTENT regarding Cashman's acquisition of Abreu. Most of us loved him last year when he was Punch and Judy-ing the Sox to death in the Boston Massacre and had little idea that he (and Cano, for that matter) would turn into a big, listless pumpkin this year. It's hard to pin such a performance outlier on Cashman. Now, the rotation, back-up catcher, and the bench - that's another matter.

Posted by: brockdc [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 01:03 PM

Now, you can say, "Andy Phillips killed AAA pitching and he can't hit to save his life." This is true. And Shelly probably won't be that good.
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To add to that point, Cairo has an extensive track record of sucking. I'd rather take my chances with Duncan. But you know that isn't going to happen...

And that is a problem.

Posted by: Raf [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 01:08 PM

He will win his 300th game as a Yankee, although I'm sure fans like you, Stevie, would throw him under the bus for a less than stellar 2007 season so far, most of which hasn't been his fault.
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You really think he has a shot at 300? He's at 242 right now and he's 38 years old. I've defended Mussina constantly through the barrage of criticisms, but I can't imagine he'll get to 300 -- especially not if he stays in the AL.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 01:23 PM

For the record, I find it impossible to try and respond, in an adult fashion, to anyone who calls me "Stevie."

And, I think most people named "Steve" - sans the blind guy with all the hit records - would feel the same.

Posted by: Steve Lombardi [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 03:00 PM

And, I think most people named "Steve" - sans the blind guy with all the hit records - would feel the same.
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There was a guitarist from Dallas, Tx who didn't mind being called Stevie, either :)

Posted by: Raf [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 04:55 PM

We have 7 over 40 pitchers throwing today. Is it out of the realm of possibility for a pitcher and I am saying PITCHER here with the intelligence of a Mike Mussina to last till he is 43? His fastball is on the south side of 90 but the array of pitches he commands is still awesome. 4 years of 15 wins 5 years of 12 wins? I wouldn't say no. It's a tremendous record. I root for things like that to happen.

Posted by: dereksTeam [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2007 08:07 PM