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March 02, 2007
Sickels' Crystal Ball: Phil Hughes
John Sickels takes a guess on how Phil Hughes career will end up. As John writes:
A Crystal Ball for Phil Hughes is dangerous for my sanity. First of all, he has zero major league experience, so this is even more highly speculative than your average CB. Secondly, Yankee fans seem to think that Hughes will turn into something like a combination of Walter Johnson and Roger Clemens, and that he'll do this right off the bat in the majors. Hughes is an outstanding prospect, certainly, the best overall pitching prospect in baseball in my opinion. But he's still just a prospect. There are all kinds of things that can go wrong with him. Hughes' PECOTA comps include guys like Bert Blyleven, Jim Maloney, and Don Drysdale...but they also include Rick Ankiel, Bobby Bradley, and Erv Palica.
Erv Palica?
Wow, and I thought Aquilino Lopez hurt.
Is there a way to sign up for Andy Benes now?
Posted by Steve Lombardi at March 2, 2007 01:35 PM
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You don't want lofty expectations until he's done something to deserve them, but you're happy to accept a comp before he's thrown a pitch in the bigs?
Those comps are as pointless as the ones comparing him to Roger Clemens and Curt Schilling.
Posted by: baileywalk
at March 2, 2007 03:39 PM
except these comps are based on comparison of statistics at similar levels, and statistics are a record of what happens in a baseball game. if we look at how many players improved or regressed from similar seasons, we can get an idea of the potential a prospect possesses. with about sixty years of data on thousands of players, eventually the sample size would have to be big enough for trends to emerge. they have, and PECOTA is one of the most accurate projection systems ever invented. to brush them off is unfair. i will admit, however, that expecting a player to be the same player as any of his comps is pointless, but as more data is collected, having a similar career path to those comps is very likely.
as for andy benes, the Cardinals must have liked him so much that they drafted both of his brothers, Adam (a SS who never made it past AA) and Alan (a mediocre pitcher who is still kicking around the Memphis/St. Louis shuttle). Does Phil Hughes have any siblings?
Posted by: mehmattski
at March 3, 2007 10:14 AM
How do you create a comp for a twenty-year-old who hasn't thrown a pitch above AA? It's ridiculous.
Since everyone overreacted to Hughes' 1.1 innings, I guess we should do the same for Matsuzaka, who pitched against Boston College and gave up a leadoff double. I think Mats will pitch well in America -- his ERA should be in the low 3s, I think -- but the one thing that might worry you is that he seems to rely heavily on his four-seam fastball, which (though it is fast through the zone and his delivery disguises it well) is straight as an arrow. Beckett throws a lot harder than Mats, and he saw what happens when you throw straight heat in the AL.
And if his fastball is more 91-92 instead of 94-95, he might be giving up a lot of home runs this year.
Posted by: baileywalk
at March 3, 2007 11:43 AM
FWIW, Schilling's fb's as straight as an arrow too, and he seems to have done quite well for himself
Posted by: Raf
at March 3, 2007 10:40 PM
Schilling is one of the best pitchers of the last decade. Go check out his numbers in his final years with Philly and his years with Arizona -- they trump Santana's numbers of today (he had three 300-plus strikeout years in there).
Schilling has amazing control -- he can spot his fastball so well he could probably hit a fly on a wall from fifteen yards. And when he's right, he's sitting 94-97. Plus his splitter is so devastating you can't sit on the fastball.
Beckett's curve wasn't anywhere near Schilling's splitter.
And Mats' fastball seems to consistently be over the plate and in a hittable zone.
If we're going to allow that someone can get by with a straight fastball, let's not use Curt Schilling as an example, since he was operating on another planet from 1997 to 2002.
Posted by: baileywalk
at March 4, 2007 01:17 AM
I'm not concerned with Mats straight fastball, I'm more concerned with his ability to pitch.
Beckett's problem wasn't throwing straight fastballs, it was he couldn't get his secondary pitches over.
Posted by: Raf
at March 4, 2007 09:57 AM
I've been championing Matsuzaka from the moment it was announced he would be posted. While Steve was questioning him in posts, I defended him. I'm not knocking the guy. And I said his ERA would be in the low 3s, which sounds pretty good to me.
I'm just pointing out that he seems to throw a four-seam fastball over the heart of the plate.
Never said he couldn't pitch.
And in my opinion saying "Curt Schilling throws a straight fastball" is like saying "Mo throws a cutter."
Posted by: baileywalk
at March 4, 2007 10:34 AM
I'm just pointing out that he seems to throw a four-seam fastball over the heart of the plate.
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And I'm pointing out that it may or may not be that big a deal depending on other factors.
Never said you were knocking him; I was here when you were defending him, and I was hoping the Yanks would get him.
