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November 10, 2006

Torre Hints That Yanks Lose On Matsuzaka Bid

From the Times -

ESPN reported that the Boston Red Sox might have made the bid, and it might be as high as $45 million. The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported that the Texas Rangers might have bid as much as $30 million, and might have a chance for Matsuzaka’s rights. Both outlets relied on anonymous sources.

The Yankees, who, along with the Rangers, have acknowledged that they bid on Matsuzaka, had no reaction to the news media speculation that they might have been outbid for a pitcher they desperately want.

“No one knows,” General Manager Brian Cashman said.

But Yankees Manager Joe Torre was influenced by the reports. When Torre was asked about Matsuzaka before his Safe at Home Foundation’s charity event yesterday, he spoke as if the Yankees had lost out on Matsuzaka.

“We’ve put in a bid ourselves and we’ve come up short, evidently,” Torre said. “He was obviously of great interest to us.”

I'm on record already on Matsuzaka - and if someone wants to pay $60-75 million to have him pitch for the next three years (or so), I'm just glad it's not the Yankees.

Posted by Steve Lombardi at November 10, 2006 11:24 PM


75 million? The low-end figure with this Red Sox rumor is 38 million. Matsuzaka isn't going to take less than 11 million a year at 4 years. So even the LOW END is over 80 million. That's just absurd. And if they really did bid 45 million, then they're insane.

If it comes out that the Red Sox bid 45 million, then there had to be some tampering involved in the deal -- wherein the Sox bid 45 million to guarantee a win and will pay the Lions 30 million (or thereabouts). There's simply no way ANY team would bid that high.

If Mats does end up on the Sox, it will be awful. We'll have to face this guy all year. And if we do, all the doubters are going to be eating a shovelful of crow. And while watching them eat that crow if he was a Yankee would have been fun, if they're doing it with him in a Sox uniform, I will unfortunately be sharing their pain.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2006 11:51 PM

I'm hoping (if this Sawx story is true) that it's solely to block the Yanks, the Sawx don't offer a legitimate contract, Selig realizes this, and awards the bid to the #2 team. Even if it's the Rangers, it's better than Boston.

Posted by: Travis G. [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2006 12:01 AM

Even Mike Plugh from Matsuzaka Watch and Canyon of Heroes who absolutely loves Matsuzaka think it's a ridiculous bid...

One thing I didn't address in my blog writings (that Mike did) about this is that the Red Sox just became the new Boss in town... kinda funny too...

As the saying goes: if you can't beat them, try to outspend them...

Posted by: B(rent) [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2006 12:07 AM

"As the saying goes: if you can't beat them, try to outspend them..." People forget that, as late as Opening Day of the 2000 season, the Red Sox did outspend the Yankees...to no avail. It's only the fruitless spending of the last 6 seasons by the Yankees that have allowed this canard about the Yankees "buying" championships to sustain itself when, in point of fact, the record for the highest payroll to ever win a World Series belongs to...the 2004 Boston Red Sox.

Posted by: JohnnyC [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2006 12:57 AM

Johnny, don't let facts get in the way of a good misconception.

Posted by: JeremyM [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2006 11:56 AM

What he's saying is true, Jeremy. It's only the post-2001 Yankees who have become this bloated-payroll mess. During the dynasty, the Yankees didn't always have the highest payroll, and when they did, it wasn't by much.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2006 12:44 PM

I was agreeing with Johnny in a sarcastic way- i.e. chastising him for letting the facts stop people from believing their misconceptions.

Posted by: JeremyM [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2006 02:26 PM