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November 08, 2006
Report: Yanks To Post $20 Mill For D-Mat
From Bob Klapisch -
"This is the guy we want," one Yankees official said on Tuesday, referring to Matsuzaka. "I'm not saying we have to get him, but we'd like to."
The Yankees are believed to be ready to go as high as $20 million for the mere right to speak to Matsuzaka about a contract. It's an enormous posting fee, even by the Yankees' standards, but they're being driven by an unsubstantiated belief that the Rangers will be the dark horses in the blind bidding.
Owner Tom Hicks, they hear, is apparently convinced he needs just one young arm to take control of the West, and further believes his working relationship with agent Scott Boras, who represents Matsuzaka, can divert the pitcher away from the Bronx straight to the heart of Texas.
That scenario would explain why the Yankees appear determined not to be outbid. "At the end of the day, they're the only ones who'll go [to $20 million]," said one insider.
I guess the $8.5 million signing bonus for Hideki Irabu (in 1997) and the $6 million signing bonus for Jose Contreras (in 2002) were just warm-ups for this process.
Posted by Steve Lombardi at November 8, 2006 02:14 PM
Comments
$20M is not going to win the bid. Someone is going to blow everyone out of the water and bid $30-35M, and Tom Hicks is just the guy to do something like that.
Posted by: Mike A.
at November 8, 2006 03:08 PM
Great. Then in two years we can hear about how Matsuzaka's big contract is the reason the Rangers can't win.
Posted by: JL25and3
at November 8, 2006 03:17 PM
Great. Then in two years we can hear about how Matsuzaka's big contract is the reason the Rangers can't win.
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Then who will the Yanks trade to get him? :)
Posted by: Raf
at November 8, 2006 03:21 PM
$20 mil just to talk to the guy ? That is just dumb. There's alot of things a team can do with $20 mil in other countries don't you think. They could develop a group of young players for that kind of money.
I really think players who are not MLB "proven" should be asked to participate in a workout for the teams interested rather than pay a guy $20-40 mil and later find out he's an average Joe.
Time and time again Cashman says he wants to lower salary and promote within yet they keep participating in stupid shit like this.
Posted by: ynks4life
at November 8, 2006 03:34 PM
Why is this stupid? The posting fee doesn't count against the luxury tax threshold, just the salary. And there are no 26-year-old pitchers with Matzusaka's ability available elsewhere. I think it'd be a great move.
Presuming Hughes (and Clippard) pan out, the Yanks' rotation in '08 could include two guys making the minimum (Hughes and Clippard, about $800K), Wang at say $4.5 mil, DM at $15 mil, and Moose at $12 mil = $32.3. Compare that to the $51 million or so the Yanks paid to just Unit, Moose, Glass Carl, and Wright in '06.
Posted by: Shaun P.
at November 8, 2006 03:44 PM
You make great points Shaun P. I still think its a lot of money for a guy with so many innings logged in. But you're definitely right when you mention the $51 mil they pay for those "has been's"...
Posted by: ynks4life
at November 8, 2006 03:49 PM
And I agree with you, ynks4life, that all that mileage on DM's right arm is a risk; and that does bother me some. But the upside is worth it.
Posted by: Shaun P.
at November 8, 2006 04:01 PM
$20 mil actually sounds low to me. I was expecting a $25+ mil bid for Mats from the Yanks. If that's their bid, I expect another team to get him. :(
Posted by: Travis G.
at November 8, 2006 04:44 PM
Well, would u pay 25 mill to get johan santana?
thats what this guy is in japan.
Posted by: Josh
at November 8, 2006 06:03 PM
Anyone think that this is just a smokescreen and the actual bid from the Yankees will be much higher? This could've been leaked for a reason.
Posted by: JeremyM
at November 8, 2006 06:35 PM
I would be utterly shocked if the Winning bid is not at least 30M.
As for developing young players, the Yankees are doing that anyway, they are spending like crazy on young internationals players anyway for a while now and some are already starting to pan out (wang /cano / Melky were all part of this, none of them were drafties)
I have a gut feeling that Hicks or some other hick (no pun intended? :P) will blow this thing away with a crazy bid, but if not the Yankees win it.
Posted by: Yu Hsing Chen
at November 8, 2006 09:04 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion about his talent. I see so many nay-sayers these days, it's hard to wade through the pessimism. No problem. In my opinion, with significant firsthand knowledge of this player, and many very wise and studied baseball people behind me, he will be an excellent Major League pitcher. He may be one of the Top 10 pitchers in the world.
I promise, on my honor, that should Matsuzaka end up a bust I will admit my mistake, and grovel for forgiveness. I expect that the doubters will be around offering their mea culpas if he's stellar. I think that's only fair.
The Yankees probably bid just over $25 million. I don't think the bids are as high as we all thought. I have absolutely ZERO knowledge of this of any kind, but the talk the last few days has been very shy from ballclubs, and I think people are a bit edgy about raising fans expectations given the money that will be tossed around just to negotiate. I think most teams will barely break $20 million, if they even go that high, and the Yankees will be right there at $25-ish. I don't know if anyone is going to be silly enough to go up to $30 million, but my gut tells me it won't even be close to that when it's all said and done.
Posted by: Mike Plugh
at November 8, 2006 10:36 PM
I hope you're right and a "mere" $25 mil wins the auction for the Yanks. I'm reminded though, of how Tom Hicks outbid the next team when he was going after ARod, to the tune of $250 mil when all was said and done, and with his team's desperation for decent pitching I wouldn't be surprised by history repeating itself. Nor would I be surprised by Omar bidding outrageously high, although that's based less on history and more on intuition, which is not necessarily my long suit. Hopefully your prediction is right, though, and the Yanks rotation suddenly looks better than it has in years.
