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July 18, 2006
Rodriguez & Rickey
Via the Complete Baseball Encyclopedia we're able to look at Alex Rodriguez' entire batting career to date, through last night, in the form of some advanced relative performance metrics:

As you can see, A-Rod, this season, is on pace to match his production for the Yankees during the 2004 season. And, these seasons (2006 and 2004) would be his worst offensive seasons since 1999.
However, for the record, last year (in New York) was the best offensive season in Rodriguez' career.
Holy Sabermetric Double Stuff Oreo Cookie Batman!
This got me thinking about players who have come to the Yankees from other teams and who had a "monster" batting season while with the Yankees.
If you exclude Babe Ruth, it's a somewhat small group:
Roger Maris
Reggie Jackson
Dave Winfield
Rickey Henderson
Paul O'Neill
Jason Giambi
Alex Rodriguez
And, you can almost throw out O'Neill because his "big" year came during the shortened season of 1994.
I think everyone knows how Jason Giambi has done, at the plate, over the last five years in New York.
Roger Maris, came to the Yankees, had two huge seasons at the plate, and then followed that up with three solid years (before dropping off the table).
Reggie Jackson was pretty much the real deal the entire time he was in New York.
Dave Winfield was all over the map, offensively, in the Bronx - he had great years, good years, and bad years during the 1980's.
When Rickey Henderson joined the Yankees in 1985, he had his best season to date (at that time). But, his next two seasons, while great for most players, were not at (what was then) normal Rickey-levels (at the plate). And, two years later, he was out of New York.
There more that I think about Rickey the Yankee, the more I start to see some connections to A-Rod in pinstripes.
Both are among the all-time greatest players ever. Both came to the Yankees in big trades. Both joined New York in their prime (where they were under thirty). Both felt the sting of the New York media and fans (albeit fair or not) while in New York - despite both having all-time type seasons. (Rickey in 1985 and A-Rod in 2005.)
Is it safe to say that Alex Rodriguez in New York is Rickey Henderson in New York, just 20 years later? Will A-Rod's stay with the Yankees be as short as Rickey's was - despite the great talent that each provided?
If I had to make a call on this, today, I'm leaning towards answering "yes" to both questions.
I'm not saying this is what Rickey deserved in New York - or what A-Rod deserves today. Sometimes, what happens is "what happens." This is especially true when it comes to things that happen in New York.
Posted by Steve Lombardi at July 18, 2006 01:48 PM
Comments
Steve, are you saying that midway through 2009, the Yanks will deal A-Rod for a couple of middling middle relievers and a mediocre but fast CF? Say it ain't so!
Posted by: Shaun P.
at July 18, 2006 04:09 PM
ARod's not going anywhere -- accept it. Accept him, while you're at it.
I wish ARod had been a Yankee 20 years ago, before all of us had so much time on our hands that we'd fill reams and reams of bandwidth talking about him. I only wish I was a baseball GM and that I could trade for ARod. If the Yanks want to dump him elsewhere, that's fine, but they won't be better off for having made the deal.
Posted by: MJ
at July 18, 2006 04:22 PM
It's pretty sad how the people with the bullhorns can praise a player for clutch defense on Sunday and decide within 30 hours how terrible he always has been.
Maybe if Rodriguez goes on the DL we can revel in Nick Green, Miguel Cairo, and if we're lucky, maybe try to get Enrique Wilson back.
There's a lot of miserable "fans" out there.
Posted by: RICH
at July 18, 2006 04:32 PM
The saddest part of all this is that last year, in the midst of an MVP season and one of the best seasons by any RHB in Yankee history, ARod was still eating shit. This isn't about clutch or pressure or being a New York guy, this is flat-out a hatchet job being done by the media and a lot of people that just don't like him. If ARod v2006 is so lousy, can you imagine what a real lousy player is like? I wish for one moment people would forget what his contract was. Who cares what he gets paid. As far as we're concerned, he's getting $16M from Big Stein (Texas pays the rest). Who said that X amount of dollars has to equate Y amount of performance? Where is the sabermetric formula that shows us what we should expect from someone earning $_____. LEAVE THE FUCKING GUY ALONE! Enough is enough.
Posted by: MJ
at July 18, 2006 04:39 PM
OK, I'll try and do this without getting pissy.
I like A-Rod. I've stated that before here - many times. I have his picture on the wall at home - it's been there for something like 6 years.
Last year, no one fought harder for him, in terms of presenting a case, to be named league MVP, than me. Do a search on this blog if you don't believe it.
This season, I would love to continue to champion him. I want to show the world the numbers that prove he is the best player in the league. I want to make the case that everyone who says that he's doing poorly, for him, this year are wrong.
Know what? I can't do it. When I look at the facts, yes, the facts, I see a guy who is the best 3B in the AL, with the bat, because the rest of the AL stinks at 3B this year at the plate. I see a guy who does not hit when the Yankees are losing but the game is close. I see a guy who makes an error at least once a week. I see a guy who is under-performing, according to his standards over the last 7 years.
But, I'm supposed to overlook all these facts and say "Oh, who cares, he's A-Rod, he's the greatest ever"? If I did that, I would be Michael Kay.
Trust me, when A-Rod plays well, I will praise him until the letters fall off my keyboard. But, I cannot look past the facts of this season.
Is A-Rod better than Joe Crede this season? Sure. Is he better than Scott Rolen? No. Better than Morgan Ensberg? Maybe not.
When I see that A-Rod is better than Ensberg and the same as Rolen, then I will be excited for him.
Lastly, think of Johnny Damon. Yankees fans, and the media, at this moment, love Johnny Damon more than A-Rod. Why do you think that is? Are they just stupid? Or, is there something there this year that says Damon deserves praise and A-Rod does not? Honestly, what's the answer? Think about it.
It's about performance. And, that's the reason why I write what I do about A-Rod this season. It's not personal. Again, A-Rod, I'd love to love ya baby. Just give me a reason this year.
Should it be just because of last year? OK, then Aaron Small should be loved now too.
Posted by: Steve Lombardi
at July 18, 2006 05:23 PM
But, Steve, as MJ points out, he was getting shit last year. You supported him but a lot of others didn't, and why is that? His contract, the way he's protrayed by the media, all these non-performance issues factor in. I also think he's having a sub-par year, which might be deserving of boos, but, honestly, do you think he deserves to be the pariah that he's become. Are the tabloids' treatment of him in line with his performance. How many MVP's have media and fans asking for their head on a platter the following season?
Posted by: Nick from Washington Heights
at July 18, 2006 05:47 PM
Steve,
Is A-Rod having a down season? For him, yes. But as you point out, every third baseman is having a down year. I'll still take a .626 OWP from my 3d sacker. Unless you can get me Mike Schmidt in his prime (who also got booed).
I'm not going to say that you should be a blind cheerleader, I just don't think it's fair for people to praise him one day, then dump on him the next. I'll accept an off year from him, everyone has one of those. I'm much more worried about the Yanks getting a real fifth starter and making a decent trade for a corner outfielder.
Posted by: rbj
at July 18, 2006 06:03 PM
You're wrong. It's not about performance. If it was about performance then a player wouldn't get booed in games which he's had hits or fielded well and then later makes an out.
If it was about performance then every player who made an error in a game would get booed during the game.
If it was about performance then Johnny Damon would have been booed during his 4-27 string last month.
Pissy? It sure sounds pissy to me.
Did you boo him Sunday when you were at the game? Did you cheer him?
Posted by: RICH
at July 18, 2006 06:17 PM
//I'm supposed to overlook all these facts and say "Oh, who cares, he's A-Rod, he's the greatest ever"?//
No Steve, you're supposed to look at the facts and say "Well I guess A-Rod's having a down year so far, but at least the Yankees are 2nd in the major leagues in runs scored! Just imagine what will happen if he picks it up in the second half!" If you think the fans are justified in their reaction to A-Rod, you're looney. Frankly, the fans are dumb asses for booing A-Rod so relentlessly.
A-Rod is having a down year, end of story. A down year for A-Rod still results in an advantage over every other team in the AL at his position. He's not hurting the team, he's helping it. Why keep harping on it?
Posted by: Marcus
at July 18, 2006 07:02 PM
Trading A-Rod would be the stupidest most un SABR move the Yankees could make. If they do it they are idiots.
Posted by: SteveB
at July 18, 2006 07:22 PM
FWIW, I did cheer A-Rod on Sunday. And, I will always cheer him when he does well. I will also praise him here, as I have done in the past, when he does well. That's only fair. To get on someone for their performance, or lack thereof, and then not also give praise when they do well is wrong (in my book).
To the point made about "Yeah, he's not A-Rod, but, I'll take it anyway because he's still better than most," I offer this question:
It's the year 2006. You have a contract with Bill Gates to deliver an OS for your firm. He shows up and says "I'm a little off this year. All I can give you is DOS. But, keep in mind, I gave you Windows XP last year!"
Are you then going to sit there and say "Hey, while I wanted and expected XP, DOS is still better than having a PC without an OS. My firm is doing well. We're making money. I can live with DOS, make the best of it, and hope that maybe I can get XP next year again"?
Of course not. You're going to be disappointed. And, then, if you went out and publicly said "Bill Gates did not deliver for me in 2006" - should you be slammed for that?
Are you not telling the truth?
Posted by: Steve Lombardi
at July 18, 2006 08:32 PM
Steve - Great points. But I would get Linux before DOS, but I'd partition my hard drive to have both.
Wow...that's a stretch even for you, Steve. ARod of 2005=Windows XP, ARod of 2006=DOS. Damn...you couldn't even call him Win NT, 98, or 95. No...you go on the way back machine and make ARod f'ing DOS.
If ARod were a programming language he'd be FORTRAN in your book. If ARod were a video game console he'd be the Atari 2600. If ARod were a puzzle he'd be a Rubix cube instead of Tetris.
Posted by: Garcia
at July 18, 2006 09:00 PM
Steve,
Comparing ARod to Henderson is a poor rhetorical strategy. I still have a pang of agita when I think about the Henderson trade and I hold a special contempt for Bob Quinn for making that deal. The fact of the matter is that Henderson would have been fine if the Yankees had kept him.
Also, trading Henderson in 89 or trading ARod in 2007 is a losing proposition. You can't get commensurate value for such a player. It would be like trying to trade Mickey Mantle in 1959.
Given their injuries, the Yankees are doing the job now. They're keeping pace and putting themselves in position to compete until the injured players come back or until they can make a deal. We should appreciate that and lay off ARod's merely OK season (for him).
Posted by: jonm
at July 18, 2006 09:51 PM
I wonder how much of A-Rods below-average perfomance is due to the fact that Sheff and Matsui are not batting behind him due to injuries.
