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April 15, 2006

Jesus Colome

If you're not good enough to pitch for Tampa Bay, you suck. The fact that the Yankees would take a flier on someone like this tells you volumes around how bad they are hurting for pitching.

Posted by Steve Lombardi at April 15, 2006 10:52 PM

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The thing with Colome is that he has a great arm but from what I heard the reason Tampa let him go was that he wasn't listening to his coaches. Maybe things will turn around for him.

Posted by: Michael [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 15, 2006 11:54 PM

But Steve, then you should use that logic every time you think the Yankees should take a flyer on a player.

Didn't you think the Yankees should have gotten Choi before the waiver process? If he wasn't good enough for the Dodgers to keep (or the the other 27 or other teams that passed on him during waivers) then there must be a problem.

Sure Colome has problems (ability?, health?, character?, all or none of the above?) but if it doesn't work out then what's there to lose? If he's going to keep a pitcher with better potential from progressing I'd be against it but I figure it's worth a shot that, just maybe, it'll mean one less appearance for Sturtze some day.

Posted by: RICH [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2006 04:47 AM

it'll mean one less appearance for Sturtze some day.
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You mean Sturtze, who used to pitch for Tampa Bay? :)

He's a power arm, so he's going to get as many chances in MLB to put it together.

You know my take, it couldn't hurt to take a flyer on him. Nothing to lose, and the pen looks even more crowded. I guess some combination of Proctor, Sturtze & Wright will be let go or sent down if/when Colome, Dotel & Small get back?

Posted by: Raf [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2006 08:42 AM

The difference with Colome, say, vs. a Choi is that a Choi is let go because the team has other options at his position. TB is hurting for pitching - they have been, for years. When a TB gives up on a pitcher, that tells you something.

Also, Colome has never shown anything outside of maybe being an average pitcher, at best - whereas someone like Choi has shown some potential for greatness.

That's the difference here.

Colome - he's just this year's Felix Rodriguez, that's all. Throws hard, two cent head, throws straight, and is a loser.

It's a waste of a roster move.

Posted by: Steve Lombardi [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2006 10:59 AM

The difference with Colome, say, vs. a Choi is that a Choi is let go because the team has other options at his position. TB is hurting for pitching - they have been, for years. When a TB gives up on a pitcher, that tells you something.
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That's not necessarily true; a team can send him down to learn a different position.

Anyway, I wouldn't look into it any more than I would read too much into Johan Santana being a Rule 5 draftee.

Posted by: Raf [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2006 01:53 PM


It's a waste of a roster move.
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Only if we know whose spot on the roster he'll take, either on the farm or in the majors.

I'd guess there's not much chance of him ever being good but he's probably set to be the last man on the staff. Who knows, maybe he already has a bad arm and we'll be spared the drama.

Posted by: RICH [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2006 02:44 PM

Steve, I don't know what you're so upset about. This is a no-risk move. Colome will pitch for AAA. If he doesn't work out his problems, he won't pitch for the big club. And even if he does, they don't have to pay him anything. This can only work out well -- either they get a good power arm for the club (he can start, too) or they release him after this year. There is NO RISK for the Yankees in this deal.

And that line about "if he's not good enough for the Devil Rays" is just silly and short-sighted. Tanyon wasn't good enough for the Devil Rays or anyone and Mo helped him work out his issues and he was effective (for a little while). No one wanted Aaron Small and he won 10 games. The Rockies gave up on Chacon.

Here's what you have to keep in mind: just last year Andy Sisco, Bobby Jenks and Derek Turnbow were all taken on waivers and all three ended up being great power pitchers (Jenks closed for the World Series winner). Just because a team doesn't want a player doesn't mean he isn't good. There is only upside to this deal for the Yanks.

Posted by: baileywalk [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2006 07:26 PM

But, what was the big league track record for Sisco, Jenks and Turnbow? That's the thing - Colome has been in the bigs for a while now and shown very little.

Yes, I know that it's just a minor league roster spot right now at risk. But, you have to remember, these are the Yankees. Someone will be stupid enough to fall in love with his MPH readings and then he'll get called up. And, if he's on the team, you know Torre will use him. That's the biggest risk of all.

Posted by: Steve Lombardi [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2006 08:21 PM

But, what was the big league track record for Sisco, Jenks and Turnbow? That's the thing - Colome has been in the bigs for a while now and shown very little.
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Doesn't matter; you get an idea of what a player can do in the majors based on what he does in the minors.

Fireballers bounce around all the time. How long did Eric Plunk last in the league? Jason Grimsley? Bobby Witt?

Posted by: Raf [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2006 11:48 PM