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November 30, 2005

Giles Stays West

Interesting that the AP headline reads "Giles rejects Yankees, will stay with Padres" - didn't Giles reject a bunch of other teams too?

Anywho, unless the Yankees want Bubba Crosby and Andy Phillips in the line-up, together, on a full-time basis, they still need to get another bat.

I wonder if the Yankees can get Jacque Jones and Eduardo Perez and just platoon them at DH? Perez had an OPS of .884 vs. LHP last year (in 158 PA) and Jones had an OPS of .814 vs. RHP last year (in 411 PA). Jones can also serve as a back-up OF and Perez can back-up at 1B. Unless the Yankees are sure that Phillips can hit LHP at the big league level - and then use him instead of Perez? (For the record, Phillips batted .150 against both LHP and RHP in 2005.)

It's just starting to seem like a "John Lowenstein & Bennie Ayala" approach may start to make more sense, if they can find it, instead of throwing money at some "star" trying to make a comeback or at some "star" wanting too many years.

Posted by Steve Lombardi at November 30, 2005 11:20 PM


I like Giles, but the bottom line is:

With 15 jacks last year, the best we could hope for from Giles is Matsui-class power. But: He's 35, how many of the next 3 years could we realistically expect him to match Matsui's power #'s? One, maybe?

For at least 10 million/year?

Posted by: Jason O. [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2005 10:12 AM

Steve, Torre's no Casey Stengel. The man who is legendary for his "hunches" likes to play the hot stick and does not believe in "handedness." He will find ABs for his bobos (Sierra will be transmuted into Bernie in 2006)regardless of match-ups. To commit the Yankees to judicious platooning as a means to a) maximize the line-up from day-to-day, match-up to match-up and b)rest regulars, you need to build a complete 25 man roster. With the signing of Stinnett, we can see that, as far as the bench is concerned, the more things change... Given Torre's "trust" mythology, even the concept of Bubba Crosby or Andy Phillips getting 300 ABs is a remote possibility.

Posted by: JohnnyC [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2005 10:19 AM

Good point Johnny.

Jason, as I wrote 4 weeks ago, "Giles is still an effective batter - even at his age. Over the last 3 seasons, he's probably in the top 5 in terms of NL OFers with the bat.

Personally, I expected his power numbers - in terms of Isloated Power and Secondary Average - to go down this year (based on a highly subjective suspicion that he may have been using PEDs in the past). But, he remained somewhat consistent in 2005.

Sheffield was the same age when he came to the Yankees."

I think Giles would not have been a terrible sign.

Posted by: Steve Lombardi [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2005 11:41 AM

The Giles thing is a bit of a mystery. Cashman acted all along as if it was a longshot and really was seemingly nonchalant about it. Ricciardi offered, reportedly, a 5 year deal. Torre's phone-tag with Giles points to maybe Torre pushing for Giles as a Paul O'Neill stand-in who could be Sheff's replacement in 2007 while being a jack-of-all-trades in 2006. I can infer that neither Cashman nor Tampa was all that hot about Giles (or just realistic about his West Coast bias). This off-season is quite problematic for Yankees observers...very little to build the usual wild speculations on. You even have some writers invoking the old "George is impatient" trope to explain Farnsworth's impending signing. I'd love to find out that, say, George King or Bob Klapisch's "inside source" is really just the washroom attendant at the IHOP near Legends Field.

Posted by: JohnnyC [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2005 01:16 PM

In fairness, we only get what's written, not a blow by blow account of negotiations. I'm sure a lot is left out, or not even reported.

Posted by: Raf [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2005 02:50 PM

I flew into San Diego Wednesday night. I've been here almost a day and it wasn't until I got around to checking this site at 9pm that I found out about this Giles thing.

Posted by: Jen [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 2, 2005 12:27 AM