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September 12, 2005

The Running Of The Bulls

From the Union-Tribune in S.D. -

When you're in Tampa Bay, where your ballclub never has contended or even had a winning record, you look for little Devil Rays of sunshine. Such as:

Having just messed up the Yankees yet again, upping their 2005 mark to 11-5 over New York, the Devil Rays claimed their fourth series win of the season a few days ago. That matches their total from the first seven seasons in existence. Put it this way, too. Only five teams in the past quarter-century have won 11 or more games from the Yankees in any one season.

"It's always good to get the bully back one day, the bully that takes your lunch money every day," Rays rookie outfielder Jonny Gomes said. "I think it shows how good we are."

Only five teams in the past quarter-century have won 11 or more games from the Yankees in any one season.

Granted, teams have not been playing each other 19 times in a season for the past 25 years, but, this is interesting. It speaks volumes to the level of how bad the Yankees play versus Tampa Bay has been this season - even more so than the 5-11 record to date.

Just change 4 of those 11 losses to wins and it's a whole new world.


Posted by Steve Lombardi at September 12, 2005 02:25 PM


IIRC, one of those teams was the 1990 A's, who went 12-0 against the Yanks that year. First time the Yanks were shut out for the season series since Baltimore in the early 80s I think?

BTW, according to yesterday's Globe, the Red Sox are 12-4 against TB this year. If only there were 5-11 against the Rays too . . . we'd have a 4-game lead in the division. Sigh.

Posted by: Shaun P. at September 12, 2005 03:09 PM

That's what kills me. Boston has had no issue with TB. So, what's NY's problem?

Posted by: Steve Lombardi at September 12, 2005 03:17 PM

O ye of little faith...

The Yankees are going to win the division.

It starts with Hinske and Red Sox killer Reed Johnson going a combined 6 for 8 tonight.

Posted by: Jason O. at September 12, 2005 04:41 PM

From your lips to God's ears.......hopefully.

Posted by: Steve Lombardi at September 12, 2005 04:45 PM

Steve, I think it's the dovetailing of 2 things: Piniella's ability to teach hitting and the Yankees' recent decline in advance scouting (now that's something you can really blame on George as he cut the budget for it). Torre hasn't been getting a lot of "good information" on the DRays recently.

Posted by: JohnnyC at September 12, 2005 05:57 PM

which really begs the question of what the coaching staff actually does on a day-to-day basis. Bobby Murcer over the weekend remarked about how he finds it dumbfounding how today's players can ever be totally unprepared to face an opposing pitcher since, as Bobby said, there's tons of video on everybody. All you have to do is study it. While I can understand that Hideki Matsui or ARod is not going to spend a few hours of his time sitting in front of a TV taking notes, isn't that what coaches are supposed to do? Isn't this what they invented laptops for? When the average age of your coaching staff is 65 to dead, a lot of them new-fangled inventions get lost in the shuffle. BTW, don't you think Donnie needs a new little black book to scribble notes in. His book doesn't look big enough to list all of Derek's dates' phone numbers in.

Posted by: JohnnyC at September 12, 2005 06:04 PM

Actually, I have another theory here. The Yankees roster the last two to three years is basically the same, in terms of starting players. Tampa Bay is not the same thing. Could it be that TB has seen the Yankees hitters enough to know how to pitch them whereas NY is still trying to figure out the Cantus, Gomes, Hollins, etc., types?

Posted by: Steve Lombardi at September 12, 2005 10:25 PM